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Honda Cars : Faceoff: 2009 Ford Flex v. 2009 Honda Pilot | 2013 New Honda Car Reviews 0

Unknown | 7:19 AM
2009 Honda Pilot
2009 Honda Pilot

How does the 2009 Canadian Utility Vehicle of the Year stack up against the segment leader?

With its mix of haute couture style and funky functionality, the new Ford Flex beat out the Mercedes-Benz M-Class and the Subaru Forester to take the 2009 Automobile Journalists Association of Canada’s Utility Vehicle of the Year award.

Second place: 2009 Ford Flex Limited AWD
Congrats to Ford. Well done. No doubt the Flex makes a big styling statement compared to Ford's previous crossover attempts -- the bland 2005 Freestyle and slightly less bland '08 Taurus X. But when it comes to good ol' fashioned value -- what should be a high priority for buyers in this class -- how does Ford's latest crossover hold up against what some consider the established leader in its segment, the also new for '09 Honda Pilot.

Another new Ford product based off the first-generation Volvo S80 chassis, the stylish six- or seven-passenger Flex crossover is in theory a replacement for the long-gone Ford Freestar/Windstar minivan.

Pricing starts at $35,499 for a seven-passenger front-wheel drive Flex SEL. Our tester was a fully loaded Limited with part-time all-wheel drive. With an overly large sunroof ($1,700), towing package ($500), navigation system ($2,500), DVD player ($1,200) and $500 for the Mini Cooper-mimicking white roof, the finally tally came to $49,399 -- $521 less than the similarly equipped Pilot.

Style and room
Beyond the Flex's hip-to-be-square design, the main interior benefits over the eight-passenger Pilot are second-row legroom and overall headroom. Being 277 mm longer than the Honda, there's 148 mm more room for the two second-row occupants to stretch their legs out. Moving to the top-of-the-line Flex Limited deletes the middle second-row seating position found in lesser models, turning it into a three-row, six-seater. At least those second-row captain's chairs are heated.

In terms of style -- like the contrast in the two vehicles' exterior designs -- the Flex's interior is like the Vegas strip compared to the subdued cabin of the Pilot. There's enough fake chrome, aluminum and wood that a Lincoln badge wouldn't look out of place on the rump of the Ford.

The highway is its home
Performance isn't really a priority in this class, which is a good thing. Both crossovers are powered by 3.5-litre V6s. The Flex's mill has a bit more horsepower than the Pilot (262 to 250), yet less torque (248 to 253 lb.-ft.) Both weigh in with around 2,100 kg, and consume in the neighbourhood of 13.0L/100 km in the city, and 9.0L on the highway. And both have the ability to tow around 2,000 kg. So its no surprise the pair of these quasi-minivans are equal in the run up to 100 km/h, in the nine-second range.

On paper, the Ford's six-speed, automatic transmission (versus only five in the Honda) should give an advantage. But it's been tuned for soft shifts at the expense of responsiveness. And "soft" is also the adjective here when it comes to how the Flex responds as a driver's car -- both on and off the road.

The Flex is happiest cruising in a straight line on the highway, delivering a comfortable and quiet ride. But when the road turns twisty, the Ford feels like the limo it's trying to be -- it is too slow and reluctant in taking commands from the helm. And where that extra length helps interior room and ride comfort, the Flex simply can't go where the shorter Honda (with its shorter overhangs) can travel once the pavement runs out.

Has form trumped function?


If you're smitten by the 2009 Ford Flex Limited AWD's unique looks, only need room for six, and never intend to travel off the beaten path, go with the Flex. But we think there's another large crossover that's an even better value...

Buy this car if ... you want a minivan that looks like a Mini Cooper; you want limo-like rear legroom; you have to spend all day cruising highways.

Don't buy this car if ... you want a responsive and agile utility vehicle; you want to go into the woods; you need eight seats.

First place: 2009 Honda Pilot Touring


If style isn't at the top of your large crossover priority list, Honda's stodgy looking yet practical second-generation Pilot not only offers one more seat than the Flex, it's also a better drive both on and off the pavement.

The offspring of a luxury crossover father (Acura MDX) and a minivan mother (Honda Odyssey), Honda's first generation Pilot was born in the summer of 2002 as a 2003 model. Six years later, Honda hasn't drastically altered the Pilot's split minivan SUV DNA for its new '09 model.

As the top-line Pilot model (base front-drive models start at $36,820) the part-time all-wheel-drive $49,920 Touring comes only one way -- loaded. In addition to the typical "power everything," and leather this 'n that, highlights include a navigation system with French and English voice recognition, de rigueur rear DVD system (with headphones), a power tailgate, and a trailer hitch and harness, heavy-duty radiator, oil cooler and limited slip differential for towing.

Forget length -- it's the width that counts


If not offering as much second-row rear legroom as the Flex, the Pilot offers more shoulder and hip room. Its extra width means three can sit relatively comfortably in both back rows. Plus there's a bit more cargo room out back: 589 litres versus 566 L in the Ford.

With acres of black plastic, there's not as much interior bling as in the Ford. But in the spirit of Apple's original mint-and-white iMacs, the Pilot Touring's driver's instrumentation features a floating needle design with a white background.

Unfortunately -- and typical of many U.S.-designed Hondas -- its centre control stack is ridiculously festooned with too many buttons of the same shape and size.

A family hauler with all the right moves, both on- and off-road


A buttoned-down chassis and solid body structure make the new Pilot a much more rewarding car to drive than the softly tuned and loose-feeling Flex. Without the wallowing found in the Ford, the Honda feels almost European its suspension tuning -- firm, but not too harsh. Steering with more feel and cornering with less lateral roll are quickly noticed. In back-to-back corners, the Pilot feels more planted due to its 36 mm wider front- and 26 mm wider rear-wheel tracks.

But what really separates the Pilot from the Flex is its outstanding off-road capabilities. Features normally found on vehicles with Land Rover badges -- like hill-start assist (which sends maximum torque to the rear wheels at speeds up to 30 km/h), four-wheel-lock, and shorter front and rear overhangs -- means this Honda isn't afraid to get its shiny alloys dirty.

Is this the best value in large crossovers?


OK, the Pilot's no Jeep Wrangler when it comes to tackling serious off-road terrain. For instance, there's no low transmission range. But at speeds up to 30 km/h, a push of a button directs maximum torque to the rear wheels (up to 70-per cent depending on the amount of tire slip), which can also help out in deep snow.

Knowing these limitations, the 2009 Honda Pilot Touring is still a nice compromise between the refined driving qualities of a crossover and the rugged off-road capabilities of an SUV. All around, the new Honda is an impressive effort. Impressive enough, in this shootout to beat this year's Canadian Utility Vehicle of the Year.

Buy this car if ... you want plenty of room for eight passengers and their gear; you want a large crossover that's not afraid of a twisty road; you want to go further off-road than your gravel laneway.

Don't buy this car if ... you favour good looks over function.

Not bad, the worst thing they say about the Pilot is the style and that is completely subjective!


Source;
http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/cross_over_special/article.aspx?cp-documentID=18178497


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Honda Cars : 2009 Honda Pilot Interior pic | 2013 New Honda Car Reviews 0

Unknown | 7:32 AM
2009 Honda Pilot
2009 Honda Pilot

The shifter is now located on the dash as opposed to on the steering column which is just more of an update than anything. I am glad that Honda didn't put the shifter in the middle console like alot of other vehicles, this leaves the Pilot with a full middle console. The Pilot also finally gets dual zone climate control and a auto day/night mirror.
I wonder if the Pilot will get the same rear view mirror with the backup camera as the odyssey like below.
The interior looks great so far.


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Honda Cars : More Shots of the 2009 Honda Pilot from Autoblog.com | 2013 New Honda Car Reviews 0

Unknown | 6:32 AM
2009 Honda Pilot
2009 Honda Pilot

One this last photo, it's nice to see dual exhaust finally make it's way to the Pilot.

Link;
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/09/spy-shots-2009-honda-pilot/


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Honda Cars : Car & Driver Snags First Photo's of the Production 2009 Honda Pilot | 2013 New Honda Car Reviews 0

Unknown | 9:57 AM
2009 Honda Pilot
2009 Honda Pilot

Here's a pic comparing the 2008 bodystyle (Right) to the new 2009 (left).

"BY ALISA PRIDDLE, PHOTOGRAPHY BY ADAM KOLINTROV April 2008

As Honda prepares to sell the second-generation of its eight-passenger workhorse this spring, we capture the crossover running around a suburb of Detroit and we like what we see.
The original Pilot offers burst onto the scene in 2002 as a 2003 model, and quickly won over buyers. But there are many more competitors this time around. To that end, the new Pilot was designed to offer more versatility and cabin configurability.
Under the hood is Honda’s refined V-6 engine with the same updated Variable Cylinder Management as found on the Accord's 265-hp, 3.5-liter V-6, enabling it to run on six, four, or three cylinders depending on conditions. Not only will the SUV be more fuel efficient, but we expect a bump in towing capability, as well.
The 2009 Pilot is the latest to be designed in accordance with Honda's Advanced Compatibility Engineering mandate, intended to facilitate better crash compatibility with automobiles large and small. In fact, Honda claims that the new Pilot will be nothing short of the best in class in the safety department but, once again, offered few details about exactly what it will offer.
As for the design, the production model doesn’t appear to have changed much from the concept. The beveled, bolt-upright windows add appreciable depth and intrigue, and the 3-D rear end is classy and simple. The front end is the only area of controversy, although it's suitably macho and flies in the face of the softer designs we've been seeing emerge on such crossovers as the Nissan Murano and Toyota Highlander. "

Here's the link;
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/suvs_family_haulers/2009_honda_pilot_spied


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Honda Cars : 2009 Honda FIT to debut at New York International Auto Show | 2013 New Honda Car Reviews 0

Unknown | 6:42 AM
2009 Honda Pilot
2009 Honda Pilot

Looks like the new Honda FIT will be making an appearance at this years New York International Auto Show, alongside that of the 2009 Honda Pilot Prototype and the Honda FCX Clarity.

Dick Colliver, executive vice president of American Honda: ”The all-new Honda Fit will reconfirm that small can in fact be big.”


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Honda Cars : 2009 Honda Pilot Prototype at the 2008 Detroit Auto Show | 2013 New Honda Car Reviews 0

Unknown | 6:14 PM
2009 Honda Pilot
2009 Honda Pilot

Well, here we have it, the 2009 Honda Pilot Prototype. I can't believe that Honda was able to keep this a secret for so long, alot of the other manufacturer's had alot of 'leaked' photos.

Here's a write up from Honda;
"Introducing a new prototype vehicle from Honda, packed with smart, practical features and advanced safety, fuel-efficiency and convenience technologies. The prototype of the next-generation Honda Pilot was unveiled at the North American International Auto Show (NAIAS) in Detroit. The Pilot redefined the midsized SUV with clean lines, better on-road handling and a more spacious interior, and the prototype promises to up the ante with even more to love."

Here's a link to the Official Site;
http://automobiles.honda.com/2009-prototype-pilot/

Popular Mechanics had a nice write up on the vehicle;
"DETROIT — Honda showed a more smoothly-styled Pilot crossover SUV Prototype at Detroit this afternoon. It’s slated for introduction as a 2009 model and we’re guessing it’s pretty close, if not identical, to the vehicle we’ll see in Honda stores late this summer or early fall. The Pilot has been restyled to be more polished than the rather bland-looking current Pilot introduced back in 2003, and there are plenty of detail changes on the inside as well.

The middle and third row seats, which both hold three passengers, fold flat into the floor for cargo hauling. You can even split the seats 60/40 for the ability to haul long packages and people together. The engine uses variable-displacement technology for improved economy. Previously, the 244-hp, 3.5-liter V6 engine would shut down three cylinders when power demands were modest, like at lower speeds on flat terrain. The ’09 Pilot uses a more sophisticated system that will run as a 3-, 4- or 6-cylinder engine. Honda says the goal is to more closely match the engine displacement to the need for speed at any moment. As usual for Honda, smart idea.

Honda even claims the Pilot’s AWD system will be effective in “medium-duty” off-road conditions. But Honda’s “medium-duty” really means light-duty. The lack of ground clearance and low range will likely restrict the new Pilot, like the old, to many of the same dirt trails other crossover SUVs travel.

On the safety front, quite literally, Honda says the new Pilot will reduce pedestrian injuries. The frontend is designed to absorb impact and lessen injuries in the event of a pedestrian/vehicle accident. City dwellers that walk to work will surely appreciate that feature. —Mike Allen"

Here's the link to that one;
http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/automotive_news/4244647.html

Here's a link to a previous article of what we know so far about the vehicle;
http://bestscoops.blogspot.com/2008/01/2009-honda-pilot-what-we-know-so-far.html


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Honda Cars : Honda's Alabama Plant Tour closed until January 01, 2008; Working on the 2009 Honda Pilot? | 2013 New Honda Car Reviews 0

Unknown | 8:02 AM
2009 Honda Pilot
2009 Honda Pilot

Here's something interesting, the Odyssey / Pilot factory in Alabama is closed for tours due to "special projects". Could this be the heavily guarded 2009 Honda Pilot? If it is, they are either still retooling for full production or have even begun initial production. The secrecy could be due to the redesigned Pilot for the 2009 model year. Factories do close for retooling for new models and this could also be getting the 'concept' ready for the Detroit Auto Show.

Here's the link;


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Honda Cars : 2009 Honda Pilot; What to Expect. | 2013 New Honda Car Reviews 0

Unknown | 6:42 AM
2009 Honda Pilot
2009 Honda Pilot


A bigger engine is rumoured to be entering the fray, it's current 3.5L V6 should be replaced by a 3.8L (or 3.7L) V6. Expect Variable Cylinder Management on all models (shuts down from 6-4-3 cylinders) like the new Accord. An increase in horsepower will go without saying, I expect 270hp or so, up from the current 244hp. You can expect to see Dual Zone Climate Control and a power passenger seat, probably for Leather models only. Blue Tooth will make it's entry, again, if the new Accord is any indication, on Leather models only.

The big news will be a Diesel engine option. Honda rumours state that the Diesel engine will be introduced for 2009, however I am thinking it will be introduced a little later. Who knows.

As far as style goes, I expect a more urban look (sleaker lines), not so 'truck-like' (box-like).
The current model is still an outstanding choice and rates at or near the top in every catagory, so don't count it out just yet!


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